mail od U.S. Department of State

**DA LI MOZE NEKO DA MI KAZE STA JE OVO? DA LI JE PRAVI MAIL ILI LAZNJAK.
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Congratulations, you’ve won !
Dear BRANKO JANKOVIC ,
Congratulations ! You are among those randomly selected and registered for further consideration in the diversity immigrant program. Selection guarantees that
you will receive a United States Permanent Resident Card(also known as Green Card or Diversity Visa) only if you follow the instructions for further processing.
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Acceptance Date: Thursday 20th of January 2011 08:12:26 AM
Winner Name: BRANKO JANKOVIC
Country of Birth: Serbia & Montenegro
Phone Number: 381-60-xxxxxxxxxxx

Is the Diveristy Visa FREE ?
No. There is a big confusion. Only the participation in the Diversity Visa Lottery was free but the winners must pay the visa processing fees.

The fee is used to process your visa related documents and verify your identity.
Fees:

Type of Residence Card Status Amount (per person)
United States Permanent Resident Card Granted! - Waiting for payment of processing fee $440
Processing fees Included
Total $440

INSTRUCTIONS

Please read and follow all the instructions very carefully. With the Diversity Visa (also known as Green Card) you will enjoy all the advantages and benefits of a US permanent resident, including health and education benefits, and employment opportunities along with guidance in your new country, orientation sessions and programs to integrate into mainstream American society. Once received you can use it at any time you want to move in the United States or just travel. The visa must be renewed after 10 years.

Although you will have all the rights that a U.S. citizen has in the United States, without a relative or friend in the United States you may find the relocation difficult and expensive due the lack of experience in the American society. Therefore the U.S. Government helps you with accommodation options that you may attach to your visa. These options are not free but are sponsored by the U.S. Government so you may find them convenient as they are cheaper, under market price :
Option #1 : Health Insurance Amount (per person)
Freedom HSA Direct Individual Health insurance for 1 year $200

Option #2 : Dwelling Amount (per apartment)
Apartment in New York, Queens(1 bedroom) for 3 months $400

Option #3 : Guaranteed job Amount (per person)
A job in the field that you are are currently qualified so you can start working even from the first week you arrive in the United States and get paid as U.S citizen. $300

Option #4 : Education Amount (per person)
Education for U.S. Students or Higher Education through EducationUSA. It includes transfer to a U.S college or Univeristy so you can continue your educational study. More details can be found at http://educationusa.state.gov/ . $320

We remind you that only the visa processing fee ($440) is mandatory and the above options are optional so you are not required to pay any of them. However if you don’t pay now once arrived in the United States you need to manage everything by yourself.

Accompanying family members(wife/husband, fiancee, brothers, sisters, children, cousins) may be included in the program and their visas will be provided at the same time with yours so you can travel/move together in the same time. However the fees must be paid per person. There is no discount for children.

Visa Payment processing instructions
The fees must be paid using Western Union money transfer and will be processed by the U.S. embassy in the United Kingdom.

Western Union is a leading provider of International person-to-person money transfer. With more than 150 years experience and 245,000 Agent locations in over 200 countries and territories, Western Union is recognized for sending money quickly, reliably, and safety.
You can send the payment in U.S. dollars or equivalent of your local currency.

Click on the following link to find the nearest Western Union agency and send the fees payment :
Find Western Union Agency
If you are unable to find a Western Union agency near your location, you may ask a relative or friend to pay the fee on your behalf.

After you find a Western Union agency you need to go with cash money, an identity card(e.g passport or national identity card) and send the payment to the U.S. embassy agent address in United Kingdom:

Name : Chris L Tully
Address: 24 Grosvenor Square
London, W1A 2LQ
United Kingdom

The payment must be sent to the above U.S. embassy agent address in United Kingdom because the U.S. Government decided this based on the diplomatic relations with your country.

After you send the payment follow the next steps :

a) Email copy/scan of the Western Union receipt at dv.state.gov@usa.com
b) Email at dv.state.gov@usa.com with the following details (you can find them on the money transfer receipt):

  1. Money Transfer Control Number (MTCN):
  2. Exact sender’s name on file with Western Union:
  3. Exact sender’s address on file with Western Union:
  4. Exact receiver’s name on file with Western Union:
  5. Amount sent:

Then wait for the confirmation that the payment was received.

Within 72 hours, you will receive a confirmation via email with your Case Number/Confirmation Number and exact date and time(approx. 2 days) of the final interview. Upon successful interview you will receive your documents and travel information to move in the United States. Under no circumstances the interview won’t deny your visa.

Important Notice!

The payment must be sent via Western Union no later than 5 February 2011. You are strongly encouraged not to wait until the last day to pay. Heavy demand may result in system delays.
Under no circumstances can diversity visas be issued or adjustments approved after this date, nor can family members obtain diversity visas to follow-to-join the principal applicant in the U.S. after this date.
The visa processing fee(US$ 440) is mandatory for each person and the U.S. Government doesn’t offer any discount, loan or exception.
You have been selected winner of the Diversity Visa lottery so the visa is guaranteed upon receiving the payment fees on time.
A hard copy of this letter will be mailed to your postal address upon receiving the payment fees.
Please be advised that even through you are a winner of Diversity Visa your Case Number/Confirmation Number will be provided only after you send the payment confirmation of the fees. Please do not contact us to ask for the Case Number/Confirmation Number.

If it would be necessary to contact the U.S. Department of state YOU MUST ALWAYS REFER TO YOUR NAME. The email address is dv.state.gov@usa.com

CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: AUTHORITIES: The information asked for on this form is requested pursuant to Section 222 of the Immigration and Nationality Act. Section 222(f) provides that the records of the Department of State and of diplomatic and consular offices of the United States pertaining to the issuance and refusal of visas or permits to enter the United States shall be considered confidential and shall be used only for the formulation, amendment, administration, or enforcement of the immigration, nationality, and other laws of the United States. Certified copies of such records may be made available to a court provided the court certifies that the information contained in such records is needed in a case pending before the court. PURPOSE: The U.S. Department of State uses the facts you provide on this form primarily to determine your assification and eligibility for a U.S. immigrant visa. Individuals who fail to submit this form or who do not provide all the requested information may be denied a U.S. immigrant visa. Although furnishing this information is voluntary, failure to provide this information may delay or prevent the processing of your case. ROUTINE USES: If you are issued an immigrant visa and are subsequently admitted to the United States as an immigrant, the Department of Homeland Security will use the information on this form to issue you a Permanent Resident Card, and, if you so indicate, the Social Security Administration will use the information to issue a social security number. The information provided may also be released to federal agencies for law enforcement, counterterrorism and homeland security purposes; to Congress and courts within their sphere of jurisdiction; and to other federal agencies who may need the information to administer or enforce U.S. laws.

Pregledaj malo ostale teme, vec je 10000 puta objasnjeno da se preko mail-a ne dobija nikakvo obavestenje kao i da se NISTA ne placa (samo vize ali to je nesto drugo). Dalje, o dobitnicima DV2012 nista se nece znati pre Maja!
Takodje je vec objasnjeno da se prijava popunjava na zvanicnom sajtu a ne na nekim drugim sajtovima (ceste su prevare tog tipa - posalji nam 300$ i dobijas GC). Vidim da si se prijavio na nekom drugom sajtu cim imaju tvoje podatke i broj telefona…

Ma ne budi lud, covece…Ovo VRISTI koliko je laznjak… Zaboravi, nema teoretske sanse, ali teoretske, da je nesto stvarno iza ove totalne nebuloze.
Lepo ti rece Antares…

probem je u tome sto se poklapa broj telefon i vreme u koje sam se registrovao. nisam 100 % siguran za vreme ali 90% sigurno.

Nisam pokusavao preko drugih sajtova, pratio sam uputstva preko ovog foruma.

Prijavu si popunio na http://www.dvlottery.state.gov/ ? Ne znam onda kako je moguce da dodju do tvojih podataka ali pravila igre (koja smo vec naveli) su jasna i mogu se naci i na njihovom zvanicnom sajtu. U prevodu (kao sto sam vec napisao), nema sanse pre Maja da saznas da si izvucen a takodje da to bude preko maila & da jos moras da ima uplatis neki novac - odmah znas da se radi o prevari!

Znam da je lažnjak,
ali i ja sam dobio isti mail,
u kome znaju i vrijeme i moje podatke kao i broj telefona.

A nisam se registrovao ni na jednom drugom sajtu.

Sad se pitam, kako su došli do podataka??? :blink::blink:

Tako sto verovatno nemas dobar firewall u kompu i uvalili su ti neki spy SW ili neko drugo elektronsko sranje koje prati sta i gde kucas na kompu…? Jedno objasnjenje…
To je zapravo pravo pitanje, odakle znaju tvoje podatke a ne da li je mail pravi, jer to znamo da nije…

Ja bih jednostavno poslao u Kentaki e-mail i pitao “da li se sa tog i tog e-maila sa kog sam dobio ovu poruku mogu dobiti vaše zvanične instrukcije upućene dobitniku, i oni će ti reći DA ili NE”. Svaku sumnjivu e-mail adresu koja mi nudi tako nešto senzacionalno, provjerio bih slanjem poruke na zvaničan email KCCDV@state.gov
Tako bih rekao ćao svima koji mi šalju razne lažnjake! :belj:

Tačno tako…

Bolje pitanje je:
Ako su uspjeli doci do tih podataka,
do cega onda jos mogu doci… i kako se zastititi?

hvala svima na odgovorima, ako saznate nesto za taj mail sto je stigao meni i jos jednom clanu javite pa da prebijemo te sto nas zajebavaju :DDDDDDD

U.S. Department of State - United States Permanent Resident Card for Slobodan Nikolic
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Congratulations, you’ve won !
Dear Slobodan Nikolic ,

Congratulations ! You are among those randomly selected and registered for further consideration in the diversity immigrant program. Selection guarantees that
you will receive a United States Permanent Resident Card(also known as Green Card or Diversity Visa) only if you follow the instructions for further processing.

Acceptance Date: Thursday 20th of January 2011 09:17:45 AM
Winner Name: Slobodan Nikolic
Country of Birth: Serbia & Montenegro
Phone Number: 381-66-9020013

Is the Diveristy Visa FREE ?
No. There is a big confusion. Only the participation in the Diversity Visa Lottery was free but the winners must pay the visa processing fees.
The fee is used to process your visa related documents and verify your identity.
Fees:

Type of Residence Card Status Amount (per person)
United States Permanent Resident Card Granted! - Waiting for payment of processing fee $440
Processing fees Included
Total $440

Npr.svi Vladini sajtovi,e-mailovi i slicno,zavrsavaju se sa GOV a ne sa COM. Sto se tice lica kome se salje novac PETER McDONALD,stvarno postoji i sluzbenik je Americke Ambasade u Londonu.Ja cu u Ponedeljak kontaktirati nase sluzbenike u Ambasadi u Beogradu,i pitacu ih konkretno,ima li me medju pobednicima… Od JOSH-a iz Washington State Department-a sam dobio sajt www.travel.state.gov ali da bih proverio ima li me u evidenciji,pored prezimena i godista,treba da ukucam i CONFIRMATION NAMBER,koji mogu dobiti tek nakon uplatim 440US$… USAFIS.org postoji i kao agencija preko koje sam se ja prijavio ima pravo da naplati usluge… E sad’,treba pitati osnivace ovog sajta da li je ta agencija ok,jer su je oni naveli kao jednu od legitimnih,…Jbg,ja do 05.Feb.2011,moram resiti dilemu i uplatiti,odnosno ne uplatiti,…
:-_-;:

Ako si se sam prijavljivao na doticni sajt 404 - Page Not Found i pratio sva uputsva koja su stvarno jednostavno postavljena na kraju popunjene prijave si trebao dobiti broj tvoje prijave koji ti sluzi za proveru statusa. Ako je neko drugi to radio za tebe tipa doticne agencije onda oni imaju tvoj broj za proveru. Provera statusa kako je naznacemo se radi "DV Lottery 2012: Entrants who completed online DV 2012 entries through the official website can check the status of their entries by returning to the website at http://www.dvlottery.state.gov on or after May 1, 2011 through June 30, 2012. "
Koliko puta mora da se drvi da je prijava dzabe ako se sam prijavljujes ako si se prijavljivao preko USAFIS-a i sl. onda je to druga prica, njima si duzan i oni ti verovatno bez uplacivanja ne bi ni procesirali podatke. Vise o svim mogucim prevarama mozes naci 404 - Page Not Found

Glavna poenta price je - kako mozes biti izvucen kad se izvlacenje jos nije obavilo? Odnosno pre maja nema objavljivanja imena (odnosno brojeva) onih koji su izvuceni. Bar se meni to cini najnelogicnije u toj prici. Druga stvar je sto nema nikakvog placanja nikakvih fees osim u ambasadi na dan intervjua..

-Ako ste dobili e-mail od prevaranta, nemojte samo brisati poruku, već kliknite na dugme “spam” (ako ga imate) kako biste sebe a i druge sačuvali od budućih takvih poruka.

-Ako je e-mail dobijen sa adrese koja se završava sa .gov, to uopšte ne mora da znači da potiče sa dotične adrese! Ukoliko takav e-mail dobijete, javite se ovde na forum i računarski pismeniji “zelenaši” će proceniti da li je poruka lažnjak ili ne. (u većini slučajeva - odgovor je DA, a u slučaju korisnika GMail i YahooMail e-mail adresa, poruka će se već nalaziti u SPAM sandučetu)

-Ukoliko se adresa završava sa .com, .net, .org, ili bilo šta osim .gov, nemojte dotične poruke prosleđivati ambasadama i KCC-u, imaju ljudi pametnija posla… Već su vas upozorili na takve prevare na zvaničnom sajtu.

-Ako se iko prijavio za lutriju preko prevarantskog sajta čiji zaposleni sada traže isplatu, predlažem da se pravite ludi i da ni slučajno nikome ne psujete sve po spisku (samo vam još fali da vas prijave i sledeće godine u inat i da vam zadrže confirmation broj), već da se prijavite kako treba (besplatno) na www.dvlottery.state.gov - to vam je jedina šansa. Najverovatnije su zaposleni tih kvazi-firmi imali pametnija posla nego da fotošopuju vašu sliku i unose vaše podatke a da im niste platili.

-Ako ste se prijavili preko prevarantskog sajta i dotični sajt tvrdi da ima vaš confirmation number, i sada traži pare kako bi vam ga prosledio, nisam siguran da možete išta pametno uraditi povodom toga… možda uspe da (ukoliko agencija zapravo postoji) nazovete prevarante i da im pretite advokatom. Telefonski broj USAFIS-a jeste navodno +1 (201) 604-6527 i piše da su iz New Jersey-a. (koliko su podaci istiniti, ne znam) U krajnjem slučaju, možete se opet prijaviti ukoliko rok za prijavu još traje.

-Ako ste platili za uslugu prijavljivanja na lutriju, ne pravite talase i želim vam sreću. Sledeće godine ako bude potrebe, prijavljujte se preko www.dvlottery.state.gov kako biste izbegli neprijatnosti.

Teško… kao prvo, izvlačenje je u maju, kao drugo, ko njima garantuje da si to baš ti sa druge strane veze? Zašto ja ne mogu da ih nazovem i da se predstavim kao taj i taj i da tražim podatak o dobitku na lutriji (koji se vrlo lako može zloupotrebiti)? Kao treće, čitajte šta piše i informišite se! Ako ne možete da se prijavite na lutriju kako treba, kako ćete srediti sve ostale papire, propise, formulare, procese i ostale zajebancije posle potencijalnog dobitka? Znam da niko nije tu da sluša naše uvrede i žalopojke, ali čujte i počujte - prijava je besplatna i radi se samo na state.gov! U se i u svoje kljuse!

…da sumiramo…
postoji samo JEDAN JEDINI nacin da se konkurise za Green Card i to je http://www.dvlottery.state.gov/

agencije rade po principu tako sto im posaljete trazene podatke, pa onda odu na taj ISTI sajt da popune te vase podatke, i dobiju mailom vas CONFIRMATION NUMBER.
i onda traze pare od vas, da bi vam prosledili taj broj, koji garantuje da ste vi stvarno konkurisali.

silno pisanije koje agencije stavljaju u svojim rekalamama-mailovima je da bi njihov nastup izgledao sto profesionalnije, jedino ispravan ..itd i da bi neupucene odvratilo od daljeg trazenja drugog nacina kako da konkurisete.

evo primer LandOfFreedom je skoro ubedjen da je Peter Mc… zaista zaposlen u US ambasadi UK i da on skuplja pare za potencijalne kandidate!!!
bez uvrede za bilo koga, jer ljudi kad nesto zarko zele onda poveruju u razne gluposti!

…drugo rezultati dobitnika se objavljuju od 1.maja i NE MOGU SE SAZNATI PRE TOGA, pa makar i da ti je stric konzul u ambasadi. :slight_smile:

neke od ovih agencija nisu prevaranti, to jest oni zaista za novcanu nadoknadu popune obrasce za vas!
ali sigurno one koje se reklamiraju posle isteka zvanicnih datuma za online popujavanje, su SIGURNO PREVARANTI!
znaci da ponovim ukratko, postoje agencije koje popunjavanju za vas podatke (ali samo u istom vremenskom periodu kada mozete i sami da popunite online obrazac) i da za tu uslugu traze nadoknadu, ostali su PREVARANTI

ja mogu zakljuciti da se to desava samo iz ciste neinformisanosti!
to su verovatno ljudi koji nikada se nisu interesovali za emigraciju, nego slucajno na email ili na nekom sajtu pokupili reklamu live in USA i slicne gluposti…

Kako možete tvrditi da je izvlačenje u Maju i da isključivo do tada se neće ništa znati oko rezultata?! Otkud vi to znate?
Možda je izvlačenje već obavljeno, ali je nama običnim igračima rečeno da nećemo znati rezultate prije 1.Maja. Neko ih možda već zna ali smo mi sitne ribe za tu priču!
Recimo jedna debilna misao ali teoretski moguća:
Agencije možda i znaju bar nešto oko dobitnika. Oni su dosta ljudi prijavili, i njihovi kandidati se izvlače u sardanji sa ljudima u Kentakiju. Zajedno dijele novac a navlače ljude na prijavu preko agencije jer je to siguran dobitak. Svakako da ne vjerujem u to, ali ne možete sve odbacivati pod izgovorm ništa se ne zna do Maja. Neko krupniji možda i zna?!
Vjerovali su ljudi u mnogo veće državne tajne i pojave na svijetu od lutrije pa bili u zabludi.

Zdravo!

Isti mail sam juče dobio kao i dvojica prije mene, ali u mom je tek stajala druga brojka koju treba platiti.

Dear Dominik XXXXXXX ,

Congratulations ! You are among those randomly selected and registered for further consideration in the diversity immigrant program. Selection guarantees that
you will receive a United States Permanent Resident Card(also known as Green Card or Diversity Visa) only if you follow the instructions for further processing.

Acceptance Date: Saturday 22nd of January 2011 06:55:21 AM
Winner Name: Dominik XXXXXXXX
Country of Birth: Croatia
Phone Number: 385-01-XXXXXXX

Is the Diveristy Visa FREE ?
No. There is a big confusion. Only the participation in the Diversity Visa Lottery was free but the winners must pay the visa processing fees.
The fee is used to process your visa related documents and verify your identity.

Fees:

Type of Residence Card Status Amount (per person)
United States Permanent Resident Card Granted! - Waiting for payment of processing fee $880
Processing fees Included
Total $880

Komično, zar nije?

*dodatak: moj čovo za javit se u Londonu je:

Name : Wayne Wardman
Address: 24 Grosvenor Square
London, W1A 2LQ
United Kingdom

Evo da se ukljucim u raspravu. Ja sam se prijavio preko usafis i 10.10.2010 sam im poslao mail da li su me prijavili i odmah su mi uzvratili mail od americke ambasade gdje pise da sam prijavljen i poslan mi je confirmation number tako da sam mogu provjeriti da li sam izvucen. Meni do sada ne izgleda da je ovo prevarantska agencija. Ljudi rade svoj posao i prodaju svoju uslugu bez obzira sto je banalna, ali im se isplati kad ima ljudi poput mene i sl. Prijateljica koja radi i zivi u USA je provjerila kakva je agencija. U 3 godine poslovanja imaju 25 prijava ili prituzbi na njihov rad, ona mi kaze da je to odlican prosjek tj. da je zanemariv.
Evo ja sam na drugoj strani, mislim da ne mora biti sve prevara, a sto se tice tih mailova- bolje 2,3 puta provjeriti.

A plaćanje?

Gde ste svi vi ostavljali ove podatke pa da znaju toliko o vama? :wtf:

@lenhi
Nemoguće je da neka bedna agencija sa takvim sajtom poseduje bilo kakve specijalne mogućnosti u odnosu na standardan formular za prijavu na DV. Što bi KCC sarađivao sa nekom firmicom koja zarađuje par desetina hiljada dolara, od kojih većinu potroši na online reklamiranje tipa “you are eligible to live and work in the USA”? Možda imaju advokata i par računara, to je to. Štaviše, na sajtu imaju “eligibility” deo gde se unese trenutno obrazovanje i zaposlenje, i gle čuda, ako se unese osnovna škola bez posla (najgori slučaj) piše nešto u fazonu “Niste eligible, ali to ne znači da se ne možete prijaviti”, dajući dalja ohrabrenja za besmislenu prijavu kako bi vam uzeli novac. Državne ustanove ne prave dilove sa takvim prevarantima…

Ako ćemo već o teorijama, ja ne vidim zašto bi iko vama od agencija prosledio confirmation broj, jer se ipak agencijama isplati i da se prijavite sledeće godine! Ne vidim šta ih sprečava da vas obaveste da niste dobili na lutriji, iako ste zapravo dobili. Ne vidim ni šta ih sprečava da vam kažu da ste dobili na lutriji, a da trebate da platite 2000$ u “troškovima”? Ne vidim ni šta ih sprečava da vas sledeće godine isto prijave za džabe, držeći vaše podatke i vaš konfirmacioni broj kao taoca?

Onaj ko u ovo veruje, neka se prijavljuje preko agencija.

It’s morally wrong to allow suckers to keep their money.
-Murphy’s economic laws